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Alexios's avatar

I 100% agree that the team that developed (then) Birdwatch was thoughtful and deserves more than the hot takes it's getting now due to the political and corporate backdrop. I need to check myself on this, too.

One thing I'd like to push back on is the point about most notes not appearing *by design* being possibly a good thing. Certainly Birdwatch was designed so it couldn't be gamed by disinfo actors hoping to use the tool to label correct tweets with false notes. My informed guess would be that it has been successful at doing that -- and it was appropriate of Twitter to worry about that.

But if you flip this from "what is right for Twitter" to "what is the right way to build a healthy community," a 90% rejection rate for notes is not a healthy steady state. It's saying that the majority of the crowd is untrustworthy. It leaves good faith actors waiting for the black box to spit out a verdict on whether its unpaid contribution will be useful or thrown away. It sets up a system that *by default* doesn't choose to nurture a healthy cooperative crowd but merely defend the mothership from its gaming.

As others have said before me, T&S has no solutions, only trade-offs. This has been a trade-off between end-note quality and nurturing a true community of contributors a la Wikipedia. One thing I keep meaning to do is see whether and how active Community Note users go through bursts of activity that dies down and are replaced by new ones because of the incentive structure -- maybe it's time to finally do the analysis :)

PS. thanks for sending me down a rabbit hole about the Lewis Chessmen

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Jazzme's avatar

Could you share with me(with us) an actraul example of how this works. * community notes* Show what fact is being disputed and how someone challenged it and changed it.

An actual example not a hypothetical.

Thanks

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